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justdave636
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Post subject: "TOO MUCH" Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:30 am |
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Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:06 pm Posts: 3 Location: texas
Gender: male
MBTI type: infp
Enneagram type: type 2
I like my food: Delicious
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Hello...
I was wondering if any of you out there have had similar experiences with your loved ones, family or friends regarding being labeled as, "TOO MUCH". "You are too serious." "You are too emotional." "You are too deep." "You take things too hard." "You feel too much." "You think about things too much." I grow tired of hearing this. I do not wish to sound stereotypical. But, I believe it mainly happens when my "F" comes up against a "T". I believe my father is a "T". I know my daughter is a "T". A woman, I am trying to work out some relationship with, I think is a "T". All these and others in my past and present have quoted one or more of the above phrases to me. Sometimes almost verbatim. I used to think I was flawed or lacking. But, after having studied myself and taken the type tests and taken the "HSP" test, I realize this is how I am wired. I will admit that being too serious is a weakness we INFP-types have. But, I also know that we sense things on a deep level and feel deeply and take our relationships seriously. I will sense something is not right with one of my "T" relationships...ask them about it..they, at first, will say nothing is wrong and tell me I need to not worry so much...then, if given enough time, they will confess to something I did or said or to something being wrong in the relationship. I know I need to work on loosening up and relaxing more. But, I have difficulty striking the right balance between concern and being overly obsessed. I sometimes feel like (when I meet someone new) telling them, "I am an INFP and an HSP. Go look it up on the web and read about it. Then decide if you want to have a relationship with me." It gets frustrating and hurtful at times for someone to get to know you...then they start saying one or more of the above critical things to you. By the way...I have decided to tell my father, daughter and ladyfriend in question about my type and given them links to go read about it...seems to have helped so far...
Anything you guys have to say about this will be welcomed.
Thanks... 
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sciski
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Post subject: Re: "TOO MUCH" Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:48 am |
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Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:30 am Posts: 1720 Location: My happynin' place
Gender: female
MBTI type: IsFP
Enneagram Tritype: 629
Class: Viking
I like my food: Savoury
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Hi justdave  . Yes, it's strange when you find out that your normal mode of functioning is so different to a lot of people out there! And it's very hurtful to be invalidated for your particular skills when people hold you up to standards that are pretty much irrelevant for you. I think telling those close to you about your type is a good step towards understanding. Hopefully they will respect your particular point of view a bit more after that. I can relate to being told I'm "Too _____" (it ranges from too intense or too silly/ditzy or too serious, etc etc--it changes depending on the different standards that people possess and project onto me). What has helped most of all is adjusting my attitude towards myself... to be okay with being intense, silly/ditzy, serious, etc, and be proud of who I am, as those moments of intensity lead to amazing insights, those silly/ditzy periods lead to levity for all and those serious moments help to calm things down. However, I also found it helpful to learn to adjust my behaviour and modulate some of my responses so that they were appropriate for particular situations. I guess it's the balance between accepting myself and listening to the elements of feedback that were helpful. For instance, I noticed your comment that you thought of being too serious as a weakness. If you truly feel that you don't want to be so serious, then you can takes steps to be less serious. If you're tired of the negative comments as well, it may help to respectfully assert their effect on you... My guess is that ultimately, the comments make you feel as if you are not acceptable or 'right' the way you are. Hopefully the INFP and HSP profiles will help them see that you are just being yourself, and that you just naturally have a different set of priorities to them!
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Pipster
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Post subject: Re: "TOO MUCH" Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:57 pm |
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Joined: Tue Feb 03, 2009 7:20 pm Posts: 1114 Location: London
Gender: female
MBTI type: INFP
Enneagram type: 9w1
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Hello justdave I agree with sciski, and have had similar experiencs to both of you, especially in regard to being told that I am too intense, too deep, too thoughtful etc by other people. I suspect it's very much an INFP thing to have this experience. Statistically there aren't many of us about, so often people haven't come across anybody else quite like us before and therefore jump to the conclusion that we must be weird. I thought you might like to read David Keirsey's 'Different Drummers' piece from the introduction to his Myers-Briggs 'handbook' (for want of a better word) which is called 'Please Understand Me': David Keirsey wrote: If I do not want what you want, please try not to tell me that my want is wrong.
Or if I believe other than you, at least pause before you correct my view.
Or if my emotion is less than yours, or more, given the same circumstances, try not to ask me to feel more strongly or weakly.
Or yet if I act, or fail to act, in the manner of your design for action, let me be.
I do not, for the moment at least, ask you to understand me. That will come only when you are willing to give up changing me into a copy of you.
I may be your spouse, your parent, your offspring, your friend, or your colleague. If you will allow me any of my own wants, or emotions, or beliefs, or actions, then you open yourself, so that some day these ways of mine might not seem so wrong, and might finally appear to you as right -- for me. To put up with me is the first step to understanding me. Not that you embrace my ways as right for you, but that you are no longer irritated or disappointed with me for my seeming waywardness. And in understanding me you might come to prize my differences from you, and, far from seeking to change me, preserve and even nurture those differences. The above comes from here: http://www.keirsey.com/drummers.aspx where you can find this extract as part of a longer piece that you might find useful. For many INFPs, finding out that they are INFP and that there is nothing wrong with them is something of an epiphany - I know it certainly was for me. Upon discovering my MBTI type I embarked on a quest to find out as much as I could about personality type theory and through this exploration, much of it conducted with the friendly help and input of the lovely people on this website and the now-defunct INFPglobalchatter, I came to understand and accept myself for what I was. So now, when people make comments of the "you're too xxxx" nature, I just laugh them off and reply that no I'm not, I'm just more introverted/more intuitive or observant/someone who feel things more deeply/more laid back than they are. Comments that used to hurt me and make me feel that there was something wrong with me are now like water off a duck's back to me. (Of course part of this is the natural progression that comes with growing up, becoming more assertive and so on, but a big part was learning about type theory.)
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crystaluniverse
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Post subject: Re: "TOO MUCH" Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 9:09 pm |
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Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:28 am Posts: 1761
Gender: female
MBTI type: ARRR
Enneagram type: 5w4
Enneagram Tritype: 549
Class: Pirate
I like my food: Delicious
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Hi justdave636! Quote: I sometimes feel like (when I meet someone new) telling them, "I am an INFP and an HSP. Go look it up on the web and read about it. Then decide if you want to have a relationship with me."  But I love how sciski and Pipster responded to you, so I'm just gonna sit here and read... ...and offer you a giant crumb of an INFP-sized cookie that I'm afraid might be "TOO MUCH" for others, but just about right for the likes of us... Maybe the next time someone says you're much too serious or much too emotionally deep, you can tell that person that it's simply because you just love them "too much." 
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justdave636
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Post subject: Re: "TOO MUCH" Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 8:39 pm |
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Joined: Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:06 pm Posts: 3 Location: texas
Gender: male
MBTI type: infp
Enneagram type: type 2
I like my food: Delicious
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knightlock
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Post subject: Re: "TOO MUCH" Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:13 pm |
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justdave636 wrote: Hello...
I was wondering if any of you out there have had similar experiences with your loved ones, family or friends regarding being labeled as, "TOO MUCH". "You are too serious." "You are too emotional." "You are too deep." "You take things too hard." "You feel too much." "You think about things too much." I grow tired of hearing this. I do not wish to sound stereotypical. But, I believe it mainly happens when my "F" comes up against a "T". I believe my father is a "T". I know my daughter is a "T". A woman, I am trying to work out some relationship with, I think is a "T". All these and others in my past and present have quoted one or more of the above phrases to me. Sometimes almost verbatim. I used to think I was flawed or lacking. But, after having studied myself and taken the type tests and taken the "HSP" test, I realize this is how I am wired. I will admit that being too serious is a weakness we INFP-types have. But, I also know that we sense things on a deep level and feel deeply and take our relationships seriously. I will sense something is not right with one of my "T" relationships...ask them about it..they, at first, will say nothing is wrong and tell me I need to not worry so much...then, if given enough time, they will confess to something I did or said or to something being wrong in the relationship. I know I need to work on loosening up and relaxing more. But, I have difficulty striking the right balance between concern and being overly obsessed. I sometimes feel like (when I meet someone new) telling them, "I am an INFP and an HSP. Go look it up on the web and read about it. Then decide if you want to have a relationship with me." It gets frustrating and hurtful at times for someone to get to know you...then they start saying one or more of the above critical things to you. By the way...I have decided to tell my father, daughter and ladyfriend in question about my type and given them links to go read about it...seems to have helped so far...
Anything you guys have to say about this will be welcomed.
Thanks...  Yep have gone through that most of my life. I was told by my NT brother for years that I was too touchy feely for his tastes. Then I realized that he was about as friendly as a stump of a tree. Most of the people that I have been around have always seen me as too passionate for my own good. But then I consider that most people would rather step on each other than care for one another so I figure that I am better off than they are. The point is that you are always going to be different and there is nothing wrong with it despite the fact of what you may have heard.
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