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 Post subject: INFP vs ENFP
 Post Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:00 am 
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What would you say are the key similarities and differences between the two types?

On the humanmetrics test, http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp, I recently scored right in between I and E, but was fairly strong on the other three preferences.

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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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This is a very long page, but it is helpful.

http://infjorinfp.com/docs/IntrovertExtravert.htm

I prefer it over the MBTI model for assessing E/I.

Also, please be careful about free online tests--they are significantly different from the actual MBTI so may not give you a result that would reflect what you'd get on the MBTI.

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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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You know how INFPs can get kind of hyper sometimes? Like when they're around people they know really really well and they're practically bouncing off the walls, coming up with all kinds of crazy stuff that you can barely keep up with?

ENFPs are like that all the time!* :shock:


(*Disclaimer: They aren't really like that all the time, just most of the time). :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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Thanks Sciski, that article was really informative!

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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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DefectiveCreative wrote:
You know how INFPs can get kind of hyper sometimes? Like when they're around people they know really really well and they're practically bouncing off the walls, coming up with all kinds of crazy stuff that you can barely keep up with?

ENFPs are like that all the time!* :shock:


(*Disclaimer: They aren't really like that all the time, just most of the time). :lol:


Though I know this post is somewhat in jest, it begs an interesting question. If an INFP gets very "ENFP" in the presence of people they know really really well, does and ENFP get very "INFP" in the presence of people they know really really well?


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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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DefectiveCreative wrote:
You know how INFPs can get kind of hyper sometimes? Like when they're around people they know really really well and they're practically bouncing off the walls, coming up with all kinds of crazy stuff that you can barely keep up with?

ENFPs are like that all the time!* :shock:


(*Disclaimer: They aren't really like that all the time, just most of the time). :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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Though I know this post is somewhat in jest, it begs an interesting question. If an INFP gets very "ENFP" in the presence of people they know really really well, does and ENFP get very "INFP" in the presence of people they know really really well?


I think it's more that ENFPs get INFP-like when they need some down time (which they're more likely to spend doing solitary activities like reading or whatever than spending around other people, though I imagine they might enjoy spending some quiet time with an introvert or two as well), but you'd have to ask an ENFP or someone who knows one well about that.

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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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Almost of my best friends are ENFP, and when I'm in their presence, *I* am the one who needs to be told to calm down, stop being so loud, stop bouncing off the walls, etc. You can tell our minds work in very similar ways, but one of us likes to step outside after about 5 hrs. in order to just spend about 10 min. alone, observing the stars, the lake, the high-rise buildings, the planes flying by overhead, and the mountains all around us before going back inside to the festivities. It's also nothing that among the three that I know in real life, one of them is a 7 on the Enneagram, another is a 6 and another is a 4. This secondary difference does a lot to distinguish them when they appear similar on the first meeting. The many flavors of ENFP.

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This is a very long page, but it is helpful.

http://infjorinfp.com/docs/IntrovertExtravert.htm



One Jungian I know claims that introverts never think they're extraverts, but extraverts often think they're introverts.

I am not a big fan of Vicky Jo, but I admit I tend to agree with this statement....maybe it's because I am so introverted that I cannot fathom being an extrovert, but I tend to suspect that most who are unsure are really extroverts. With iNuition naturally being an imaginative frame of mind & removed from concrete reality, it's also easy to see how an ENFP might be confused about being E/I.

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You know how INFPs can get kind of hyper sometimes? Like when they're around people they know really really well and they're practically bouncing off the walls, coming up with all kinds of crazy stuff that you can barely keep up with?

ENFPs are like that all the time!*


(*Disclaimer: They aren't really like that all the time, just most of the time).


I wish I had those moods more.....it's so rare. I think I'm terribly charming when it happens though :D


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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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One Jungian I know claims that introverts never think they're extraverts, but extraverts often think they're introverts.


I'm probably an exception to that rule. I swing between INxx and ENxP and I get so energized and bouncy in activity groups that I seem so E. If I look at my general pattern, it's clear I'm an I, but I'm sufficiently bouncy to make me consider myself being an ENxP.

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With iNuition naturally being an imaginative frame of mind & removed from concrete reality, it's also easy to see how an ENFP might be confused about being E/I.


That's probably part of the reason why (if I am an ENxP) I can't decide whether I'm Ni or Ne dominant. My family members and IT associates believe I'm an ENTP but my close friends and mentors believe I'm an IxxJ.

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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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DefectiveCreative wrote:
You know how INFPs can get kind of hyper sometimes? Like when they're around people they know really really well and they're practically bouncing off the walls, coming up with all kinds of crazy stuff that you can barely keep up with?

ENFPs are like that all the time!* :shock:


(*Disclaimer: They aren't really like that all the time, just most of the time). :lol:


You mean, they're more so than Infps. Yes.


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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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You mean, they're more so than Infps. Yes.


Yeah, my experience so far has been that INFPs are usually calm but occasionally hyper, whereas ENFPs are usually hyper but occasionally calm. :-D

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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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I'm still fairly sure of my introversion, but I think I am becoming more flexible or less inhibited. That is, now I have shed some of the social anxiety I developed during the latter part of my school years, I tend to be fairly exuberant when I meet new people, for some reason. Though that could also be attributed to the sparsity of my socialising habits. I still prefer to watch and observe, and I will sometimes ask specifically phrased questions and read into the answers given so I know whether I can 'connect' in a certain way. Even so, I am told I still sometimes drown people with depth unintentionally.

When I was working as a UK online tutor, by far my favourite part of the job was in getting to know the many diverse people who would come in. The stories they would tell, their reasons for wanting to learn, and so on. I preferred smaller groups, though, as you can hardly be intimate with six people at once, particularly when you have things to do. I seem to follow a pattern of being animated and charming (at least I hope it is closer to that than nervous energy!) upon first encountering someone, then becoming somewhat more withdrawn, and settling in to a more intermediate approach in the longer term.

This somehow makes me feel that I would find getting on with an ENxx very easy, as long as they could appreciate my need for downtime. On the few occasions I have got speaking to a couple as friends, I've felt overloaded and out of breath within an hour or two. Swamped under a simultaneous deluge, or something. Yet it feels with them that's how it should be, as I don't feel as comfortable in silence. Only if it's someone I have a deeper connection with, and I'm not worrying about their inner emotional stability.

(as an aside: I've observed my own patterns over time, particularly on voice comms when I play games. The medium is different, so it's not quite the same, but I notice that if I am confronted with people who are progressively more loud and domineering, I clam up, especially if I feel we're too "different". Yet if I'm around people I feel are equally or more quiet than myself, I automatically adopt the persona of the talkative, slightly flamboyant one. It's odd.)

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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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^ My experiences are similar to yours. Around loud and flamboyant people, I clam up... my behaviour is very much due to shyness and social anxiety, though I'm trying to talk myself out of it (too much Fe saying that I need to 'blend'). Around quieter people or when I am confident, I appear extroverted, though never to an extreme. However, I tend to ramp my level of energy up and down according to the needs of the company I'm keeping.

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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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I know this isn't much. I haven't really studied it in depth. It's just when I took the test, it was like - wow, there are other people like me.
My husband in an ENFP. You guys should have seen when he read the blurb under the 'champion' article, describing ENFP's. When I first met him, he was hyper at times. More like, he liked to get people to laugh. He can be extroadinarily outgoing.
Even though I'm an INFP, I only get hyper in front of my cats, when no one else is around. Poor things.
The thing I noticed about him, is that the front he shows people, when he's being hyper and goofy - tends to distract them from who he truly is. He admitted that he doesn't want most people to know the real him, or that acting goofy in public doesn't matter, because all people see is a mask.
But he can be incredibly charismatic, and has the tendancies of a leader. While, I'm more of the 'dance to the beat of my own drum type - down the bunny trails of my imagination' while the world moves on. I think he resides in reality, more often than I do. However, he has a great imagination as well and there are times he dreams novelesque story dreams - like I do. I'm no professional, but this is just my observances, of one... very close at hand. And despite the belief that ENFP and INFP romantic relationships can't work (I read this on another forum, not here) 10 years going strong, 6 years of that married.
And he was first and only person I dated. (I didn't bother with most people, at that time.) Lucky for him. ^_-


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 Post subject: Re: INFP vs ENFP
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I also become quite extrovert-like when around certain people.

I once read an article that claimed outwardness and inwardness was relative. When around extremely outward people, even normaly outward people would clam up, and the opposite, when around extremly inward people, normally inward people would start talking. They concluded that social roles and the need to fill up niches necessary for social interaction to happen, force people to change behaviour from what they are normally inclined.

Makes it even harder to pinpoint if people are introvert or extrovert, function-wise.

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One of my very best friends is an ENFP.

We get along very well, and when I show him a song/movie/whatever that resonates with me a whole lot, he almost always gets it and appreciates it like I do.
He is very sociable and prides himself on his charisma and ability to befriend almost anyone. He encourages me to meet more people.
He has dated a good number of girls looking for his one, but usually stops dating a girl after he has decided she isn't right for him, which never takes him too long, and he rarely dwells on it if he decides it isn't worth it.
He is also very spiritual (while I am not so much) and he has aspirations to become a reverend, I attended his first sermon two months ago and it was very well written.

I think ENFPs are a lot like INFPs. If extroverts hide their auxiliary, but show their dominant, and Introverts hide their dominant and show their auxiliary, then I think the two are very similar. We both hide/show the same things.

ENFP's dominant is Extroverted intuition, and their auxiliary is introverted feeling.
INFP's dominant is Introverted feeling, and their auxiliary is extroverted intuition.

When INFPs are in a social situation, they behave a lot like ENFPs (when fairly confident and relaxed), which would explain why I got along with him fairly well from the moment we met. Also when we're alone we exhibit similar thoughts and moods.

Extroverts don't like to be alone for too long, they value social interaction and outside experience, and INFPs value a meaningful relationships. The two seem to gravitate to each other almost naturally. We've had several sessions where we just hang out and listen to music and have conversations about life, and have listened to each others problems have and share thoughts when appropriate.

The main difference between the two is that ENFPs are much more comfortable in social situations and even enjoy them, and are very capable in such situations, While INFPs prefer to spend most of their time by themselves in their own thoughts. Put the two together in either of these situations and they have equal potential in social situations, and equal level of insight and emotional richness in more intimate situations.

Thats what I've gathered from my experience anyway.


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Extroverts don't like to be alone for too long, they value social interaction and outside experience, and INFPs value meaningful relationships. The two seem to gravitate to each other almost naturally....

The main difference between the two is that ENFPs are much more comfortable in social situations and even enjoy them, and are very capable in such situations, While INFPs prefer to spend most of their time by themselves in their own thoughts. Put the two together in either of these situations and they have equal potential in social situations, and equal level of insight and emotional richness in more intimate situations.

Thats what I've gathered from my experience anyway.


I think you dissected the "Siamese twins (INFP & ENFP)" down the right line. :-D

I would also add that while both have equal potential in social situations, ENFPs tend to be readier at tackling groups while INFPs tend to be more comfortable at handling one on one or small group situations.

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