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 Post subject: Equality
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:59 am 
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I've come to believe that the concept or ideal of equality are often obscurred.

Everyone has equal worth, but no one is equal.
Many people believe that equality is being treated the same, being given the same rights. I now think that this view is distracting.
Treating people equally is inherently unfair, unethical even, as people come in all kind of varies and sizes.

Some people say that we should give everyone the same opportunity to fail or succeed. I think that is also distracting.
If you have a talent, then this talent is a likely cause of a stimulating upbringing or good genetic material. To say that people who don't
have any talent don't deserve any kind of success is superficial and mean. People with low levels of success often live less rewarding life, do they
deserve that fate?
I guess it boils down to what people deserve.
In a fantasy setting, everybody should be respected for their specific needs and wants, and accepted as a whole human being valuable for just existing as they are. Everybody deserve a rewarding life, lived to it's full extenct.
Sadly, that wont work in real life. We need demands and incentive for the world to go around, but the problem with those are that some will succeed and some will be left behind.
How are we to determine that someone has achieved too little compared to their potential, or some have succeded far according to it?
I guess this is one of those instance where we can say "we don't know", or "humanity have not come far enough". We might even say science has not come far enough.

I don't know what I want with this. It's just thoughts. However, I believe deep-seated respect for human beings should weight above concepts of equality.
(I guess this is the old familiar sympathy vs justice problem which is said to follow us INFPs ;) )

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 Post subject: Re: Equality
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:34 pm 
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trondor wrote:
Everyone has equal worth, but no one is equal.


I was thinking along similar lines just the other day in regards to men and women - that "equality" is not "sameness".

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 Post subject: Re: Equality
 Post Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 11:51 pm 
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I agree with the idea that there's not such thing as equality, DNA for a newborn is a mere lottery of life, as well as the social environment, time in the history and all the other factors.. Some people get a lot of unlucky circumstances, others not as much. We don't realize how much in our lives is already given and we have to work through this/with this.. Morally yes, everyone deserves an equal treatment, everyone has an equal value of life. But equality in terms of physical characteristics and a million of other things is never present.
The best way to deal with this, I think, is just take it as it was given and make out the best of it.. Who knows, perhaps there will be other chances but the skeptical mind tells me that there's only one take.


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 Post subject: Re: Equality
 Post Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:57 am 
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AhSver wrote:
The best way to deal with this, I think, is just take it as it was given and make out the best of it..


I agree. You can spend your life talking about how unfair life is, or just get on with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Equality
 Post Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:57 am 
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I think it's best to give everyone an equal opportunity as much as is possible. How this can be achieved I'm not entirely sure. I sort of take a "here's the playing field and the rules, now every man for yourself" in my approach to fairness.


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